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BBB raided

Berichtdoor IJesusChrist » za feb 06, 2010 5:04

Bouncing Bear Botanicals has been raided.

No link, google it.
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Re: BBB raided

Berichtdoor IJesusChrist » za feb 06, 2010 9:51

Link from DMT Nexus and other sites: http://www.dmt-nexus.com/forum/default. ... sts&t=9767

The raid seems to be more talk, less action, alot of the charges cannot be carried out, as BBB takes preliminary caution against such laws.

However, it seems as if the company may hit a very (if nor indefitinite) large speed bump...
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Re: BBB raided

Berichtdoor Dr. Leospace » za feb 06, 2010 21:48

More info at their forum:
http://www.dancingbearbotanicals.com/in ... pic=1451.0

This is very sad :cry:
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Re: BBB raided

Berichtdoor ModalRealist » za feb 06, 2010 23:23

How likely is it that this will result in surprise visits for past customers? :?
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Re: BBB raided

Berichtdoor darkwolfunseen » zo feb 07, 2010 0:31

For past customers - highly unlikely due to two basics: 1) Cost-benefit of catching someone with an oz of anything versus $300k worth of inventory. 2) Legally, they'd need a warrant to search anything. That would mean they would have to prove that you are using materials inappropriately, prior to searching. Kind of difficult, so again very unlikely.


BBB - That seriously sucks. It's so hard to find good suppliers, and between this, the Paypal bull when it comes to buying entheogens, and the skewed perception of the outside world, I don't understand why we have to feel like outcasts or drug addicts when we try to explore this world. I wish BBB luck.
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Re: BBB raided

Berichtdoor Forkbender » zo feb 07, 2010 2:45

HAHA Frontpage says: BBB raided by Forkbender.

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Re: BBB raided

Berichtdoor HeartCore » wo feb 10, 2010 12:21

And another one bites the 'protestant continuation of the catholic inquisition and witch hunts' dust also known as:

'the war on drugs'

Last month Rick Simpson and this month BBB, I cannot imagine a worse start of 2010 for psychedelic minded people.

It's unbelievable the crap psychedelic and cannabis minded people have to put up with.
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Re: BBB raided

Berichtdoor Forkbender » do feb 11, 2010 21:05

It is unbelievable the kind of crap we put up with and why most psychedelic enthusiasts don´t do a damn thing about it.
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Re: BBB raided

Berichtdoor IJesusChrist » do feb 11, 2010 23:36

...I really just don't know what to do except to self-produce it?

Fuck capitalism anyways
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Re: BBB raided

Berichtdoor madprossor » za feb 27, 2010 10:31

This indeed sucks.

But I think the dude brought it on himself by selling K2 when he already had such a high profile business selling legitimate herbs.

We all saw what happened to JLF when they sold pure synthetics, Mark was lucky to only lose his inventory. Now JLF is back in business for 8-9 years with no problem since they discontinued the synthetics.

The dudes from RAC Research and ACS are in jail now, right? So the dude had every indication that synthetics are no longer tolerated. Failing to list the active ingredient and selling it OTC in head shops will only make the man more angry.

My main botanical supplier does not carry synthetics or even plant extracts like harmine which are unscheduled and probably not covered by the analogue act (JWH probably is covered as are the phenethylamines and tryptamines).

I have heard rumors that kratom will be the next plant to be banned. Funny, I was expecting the San Pedros to disappear first, or MHRB. Well, stock up now while ya still can, eh?
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Re: BBB raided

Berichtdoor Bastiaan » di maart 02, 2010 22:38

:s can they do this? ....
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Re: BBB raided

Berichtdoor madprossor » za maart 06, 2010 6:37

Bastiaan schreef::s can they do this? ....


can they do this? like- can they ban plants?

they've had their "eye" on kratom, salvia, san pedro, mimosa, etc for awhile... i think perhaps the reason they haven't been banned is they're not causing any measurable behavioral problems or social disruption (no addiction, no overdoses). according to the weird logic of prohibition use of the plant could go up if they choose to ban it, and go down if they leave it quasi-legal.

back in the day they would just burn you at the stake for practicing herbal medicine. some old lady was probably growing echinacea in her garden or something- burn her at the stake she's a witch.

which is why medical doctors and the pharmaceutical companies have so much money now. it's not hard to corner the market when a few well placed rumors cause the community to murder some of your competitors and scare the rest out of advertising and practicing.

the FDA has demonstrated that they do not require any credible proof of harm in order to remove things like safrole from the food supply. neither does the DEA require any credible proof of harms in order to put herbs like cannabis and alkaloids like dmt onto the Schedule 1. it's not about making good policy based on science, it is just an agenda. thanks alot- in addition to putting my friends in jail for no good reason you weenies have successfully made my rootbeer taste like crap too! y'all are some miserable petty fascist pricks, won't even let a man drink his good sasparilla in peace...
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